Thanks @AkiG. The message from GD on the role of offline mode until recently was very clear, was direction changed, I have no idea, these are just recent examples from end of August, quite informative read demonstrating very clearly GD stance on offline mode.
And one just from yesterday
If the intent is to make offline mode fully functional, not a poor man backup only option, the messaging from GD is quite confusing and does not show that intent at all.
The intent is still to have the offline mode as a fallback for the unlikely and rare situations that internet fails.
You quote a few posts.
The first quote: We did change the direction a bit and improved the offline mode based on the comments, so quoting this old comment is not valid anymore.
The second quote: This refers to old windows-style UI, with all the limitations that come from it. For example, Paddock profiles have a place to write down racerâs private notes about the profile, which is not possible in offline profiles (and was not available in Classic mode).
The third quote: We did add creation of pure offline profile after that comment, so quoting this old comment is not valid anymore.
Forth quote: see below
We are working on making the offline mode usable. It is already usable now, but its difficult to make improvements to it based on uninformed comments like âplease make it just like classicâ. Just now I will be investigating whether the renaming of offline profile can be made easily.
About the features: We are planning to finally make a system with profile<->game mapping that would get automatic profile switching possible. But we are unsure how to include two profile management systems to it, so it is likely that it will be implemented to Paddock, and then we will see if/how it can be made to support Offline mode as well.
What is so âuninformedâ with asking to retain 100% of Classic functionality. You donât expect us to explain you how Classic mode works?
@Andrew_WOT So again the question: what are you missing compared to the classic mode given the status quo of the offline mode?
I would think the offline mode will also support the configuration of new upcoming filters which require paddock due to the API between paddock and the device firmware (but this would anyhow go beyond supporting status quo of the classic mode which is what you are asking for).
New usability features (comments to profiles, potentially automatically selecting a profile based on game / car combination and whatever else is on GDâs backlog in terms of usability) likely will not make it into the offline mode.
So why not share with us what is still missing in paddock offline mode as it is now (plus the upcoming 2021.11 release) compared to classic mode? It seems you had not been aware of the current state of the offline mode and just keep repeating âmake it like classic modeâ. What is not like classic mode (ok renaming a profile in offline mode is not yet supported, biggy right?) you really miss?
Comments like this all from the last 2 days plus not concretely naming the remaining gaps looks uniformed to me as it appears you do not fully understand the current status.
PS: i am by no means in any way related or affiliated with GD. My comments are purely based on my perspective as a user and reading this discussion here.
Maybe this is the case in Finland but unfortunately that is not true In other parts of the world. Internet failures are not unlikely and rare as you state
Based on the feedback GD has implemented the offline mode which does not even require to register online. So what is your point. Offline mode can select, create, modify profiles.
It gets a bit tiring that always the same arguments against paddock are brought up without acknowledging or commenting on the offline capabilities which have been meanwhile implemented to address the concerns raised here. Bringing up always the same old points without concrete input as to what - if anything - is still the problem with the new version is not very constructive.
Imho Mika and team did a great job addressing the initial key points of critique
Whatâs my point? Iâm pointing out the fact that Mikaâs assumption is wrong
Youâre saying all this because I pointed out an incorrect and quite frankly uninformed assumption?
@designamk1 I so knew that this would be the exact reaction to my post. I know that your statement that internet is not reliable in all parts of the world is correct.
But your statement definitely implies a resistance against the newer TD versions, especially given your recent post
To me (personal impression, others might differ) comments like that or earlier from @Andrew_WOT imply that you are still opposing the new Software for reasons given in the past but meanwhile addressed by Mika and team. Not a very constructive way of discussion!
I am still waiting for anything concrete what is still missing in the new TD Software with itâs offline capabilities compared to the classic SW? And nothing we said has happened, really ???
Did you check the current status and offline capabilities (if not testing yourself at least from the release notes and the most recent discussion here, e.g. my post where I directly addressed you Simucube 2 True Drive Paddock - Feedback and suggestions)?
So either be concrete what problems still persist with TD 2021.9 and the upcoming TD 2021.11 relative to TD Classic or stop complaining about not relevant points (not reliable internet --> has been addressed via offline mode) or old points of critique which have been addressed by now. I believe the Offline mode has by now feature parity with TD Classic and even the UI for editing an offline profile looks the same to me as TD Classic.
Imho Mika did a great job listening and being open to the points of critique while maintaining the decided overall strategy how to move the Software and Firmware forward.
Mate, I made a comment to Mika about his assumptions and now again youâre spewing all the same stuff over and over again. Whoâs the repetitive one again? My comments were pointed to Mika and he has answered some of them. Again, Iâm not sure what youâre on about when I was pointing out an incorrect assumption. Are you want to get something off your chest?
I have no idea what your on about and I donât even know who you are and to be honest Iâm not really interested in hearing what you have to say
Likewise
Btw, I have no problem with Paddock online and use it.
I only tried the offline mode yesterday for the 1st time as in this thread the complaining about the new TD versions did not stop. And after testing it I am lost as to why (very few) people are still complaining hence I asked what is the problem without getting any answer so far.
hi AkiG, you are right! we canât complain about software we donât know. I have not downloaded the new Paddock, I still use the TD 2020.10. Actually Iâm afraid I wonât be able to go back with the downgrade. Convince me itâs a good thing to upgrade. Convince me that the Paddock is better than TD 2020.10. Convince me that the Paddock is more stable than TD 2020.10 and therefore I will not have any problems. But please donât tell me about the shared profiles, donât interest me. Thanks
Do you have a certain time when the new version will be available?
Can I already race with it today? 
I am not intending to convince anybody to upgrade.
I just have a problem with folks complaining about the new software and the fact that this is the base of moving the development forward by bringing up complaints which had been made in the early stages of Paddock but which had been addressed in the meantime (based on that very complaints and feedback).
If you are running an older Software version, are happy with it and do not complain about the new Software that is absolutely fine for me.
âŚactuality Iâm not complaining. Iâm just waiting for a good reason to upgrade
This is exactly where im at. 2020.10 works every single time i fire up my wheel . Thats what i care about not online profiles.
I donât think anyone would be interested if you upgrade or not or should convince you do upgrade? If you are happy with version X then use it. Just donât complain you need this or that which happens to be fixed in some other version what you are using. (not saying you are doing that)
