Project Cars 2 and Simucube 2

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Well, I FINALLY managed to get my SC2 left and right steering assigned in PC2. Here’s what I did, although I can’t say it’s necessariy a true ‘solution’. But everything works now.

morpwr mentioned pedal assignments, and I decided to try to get the SC2 left and right assigned after disconnecting pedals completely. Didn’t seem to help at first. But then I also took the step of deleting the normal Rx, Ry, and Rz assignments in the pedals (I assigned buttons). I then also assigned buttons to both left and right steering, as an effort to try to start from scratch.

One thing I hadn’t mentioned was that PC2 assigned X- to my right steering initially. Since I had luck assigning right steering Ok, I did try to reassign right steering several times, and was successful a couple more times. Each time PC2 assigned X-.

I think X- is more typically assigned to left steering and not right. But that’s what PC2 did, and so when I tried to assign left steering, it either failed to assign (no assignment) or I rec’d the ‘multiple assignments’ message. Strange, since for other functions besides steering, it will just ask you if you want to reassign if that is a duplicate. So apparently PC2 was attempting to assign X- to left steering.

So since I reassigned both left and right steering to buttons, I then again tried to assign them, starting with left steering. Sure enough, this time left steering was assigned X-, and then right steering was assigned X+. I then shut down my PC, reconnected my pedals, and successfully assigned each pedal. Seems to all work now!

I can’t blame Sim Creators for allowing automatic assignments, and for buyers wanting to have that. But in this case, automatic assignments caused me MAJOR PROBLEMS AND HOURS OF WORK, which I don’t understand. If it doesn’t work right the first time, PLEASE give me a manual option with a dropdown list of assignment options that allow me to change anything to anything else in an instant!

Also, would be nice at this point, if PC2 would list Fanatec and Simucube 2 DD options in the wheel options. Hardware options are changing every couple months it seems. No excuses for not keeping up!!

Thanks again for all the helpful suggestions and input!

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Marking this thread/post RESOLVED.

OOOOPS - JUST REALIZED i FORGOT THIS WASN’T MY POST ORIGINALLY.

My part of it is resolved though.

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Yeah, extraordinary amount of troubles for you :frowning:

But, PC2 is end-of-life now, they have already moved on. No way to add support for new devices etc.

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Thanks for Granite’s willingness to allow my posts to continue- since it ended up not being an SC2 issue, I’m sure. I didn’t know what the problem was at first.

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I spent hours trying to figure that out. Checked diview couldn’t find anything then finally caught that one of the pedals and one of the steering assignments are the same. Glad it worked for you.

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Hello everyone. I’ve been pretty puzzled by SC2 FFB I’m getting in Project Cars 2, and have not been able to resolve the issue. Problem is that I’ve never been able to generate ANY WHERE NEAR the kind of torque/NM that the SC2 is capable of, or that I was able to generate with ACC after I installed it (brief test after rudimentary start up).

I feel no surface nor curb feedback at all. I have both SC2 and PC2 set at 100% gain (Advanced mode, Enable High Torque). And yet I was able to generate more force with my Clubsport 2.5. I did download and tried ‘Hugo Vai’ (spelling?) wristbreaker mode, which is a beast with only TD running, but after starting PC2, FFB almost disappears.

I know that PC2 has a rep. for having poor FFB, but is this normal? How much FFB do other SC2 users get in PC2? As mentioned, I immediately felt surface and large FFB force after inital setup and control assignment in ACC. Any input appreciated.

One other oddity… with only TD running, Simple/read only mode, when pressing ‘Enable High Torque’ FFB all but disappears (no sim running). Disable High Torque in Simple/Read Only and force returns. Extremely weird!!

Appreciate any feedback… would really hate to abandon PC2 now that I have SC2 installed.

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The low torque mode has additional damping and friction. It is not FFB. Create a profile, then it will give you control over the feeling.

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Thanks for the feedback, Mika. I wasn’t aware that low torque was only damping and friction.

But even in High Torque mode in Simple or Advanced, I receive low or no torque in PC2. Today I ran the following test with the Factory/OEM Project Cars 2 Profile.

Conditions: Running on Steam, TD minimized after settings set, PC2 Gain 100%, Factory PC2 Profile loaded in Simple mode. When TD indicates “Save Settings to Simucube”, I press that button and wait for that notice to dim.

Simple Mode, Low/Safe Torque: I do feel some resistance to steering with factory settings
Simple Mode, Enable Hi Torque: I do feel increased resistance to steering UNTIL PC2 completes starting with my selected car and track. Then all resistance to steering DISAPPEARS. Resistance to steering inputs is ZERO.

When I enter Advanced Mode following loading PC2 factory settings in TD Simple mode, I see what I assume are Granite’s detailed PC2 factory settings. Results I get in either Simple or Advance mode with Granite PC2 settings in TD are the same as in Simple mode… some resistance to steering input in Low Torque mode, but ZERO resistance to steering input in High Torque Mode.

Adjusting Gain/Force to max or min. in either Advanced or Simple mode in High Torque Mode makes NO difference in my results in PC2.

Very puzzling to me, even though I have read PC2 FFB is poor compared to other sims. And as mentioned, I have loaded other enthusiast settings .txt files such as Hugo Vai’s with no change in my results in PC2 once in-game.

As mentioned, I have perhaps 20-30min. brief test time in ACC after installing that recently and FFB seems to work as expected. I can achieve Copious FFB! :slight_smile:

Any input of other PC2 users’ experiences re: SC2 FFB in PC2 much appreciated. Thanks again.

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Did you delete your old wheel profile? Because something is definitely wrong.

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Thanks… I deleted my Clubsport 2.5 profile 10 days or so ago when I was having huge trouble trying to get my SC2 to assign steering in PC2.

I checked, and I currently don’t have any Project Cars 2 folder under Users\MyName\

So I may have deleted too much. I kind of assumed that PC2 would create what folders it needed when I got the SC2 installed and set up, after I deleted the old Clubsport profiles. Jim-Power posted the following 11days ago:

C:\Users\YourName\Documents\Project CARS 2\savegame\10064461\project cars 2\profiles\default.controllersettings.v1.03.sav

I currently don’t have anything for SC2 listed there and nothing after YourName\Documents. Did I mess up? Suggestions? Thx

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@EXOTICS4LIFE

Did you carry out a Steam file integrity check?

I suggested trying that out earlier in the thread when you were having the wheel assignment problem.

Give that a try if you didn’t before and if that doesn’t work, I’d just do a complete uninstall/reinstall of PC2 as something really must be off.

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Here is what I have if you need to compare:

Documents > Project CARS 2

Documents%20PC2
Documents%20PC21196×677 104 KB

steamapps > common > Project CARS 2

Steam%20Common%20PC2
Steam%20Common%20PC21195×1219 226 KB

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I’m just going to ask to make sure, your volume isn’t at 0% right? You control the FFB strength via volume in PC2, and let gain be at 100%

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@EXOTICS4LIFE strange, never had any problem at all with pc2.

the right procedure is :

1 - in the first page of the controls menu (where you can choose multiple types of wheels each with his own image displayed), select “custom” as no presets exists for dd wheels;
2 - assign the steer left / steer right inputs in the “assign commands” menu (where you map every command )
3 - go into the “calibration” menu at the bottom of the 1st page of the controls menu and turn left and right the wheel to let the game recognize the inputs you already mapped before in point 2 and then turn the wheel 90° left (or right i don’t remember exactly) to let it recognize the degrees of rotation you have in your wheel sw (true drive in our case)

that’s all, i mean it is a bit clunky as procedure, no doubt about it, but that’s the way it has to be done.
before doing this, i suggest to delete your whole doc/project cars 2 folder. tell me if it works.

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pc2
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Looking the same to Pauls :slight_smile:

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You did save it after you set up the wheel right? Sorry but I had to ask and we have all done it.lol

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Hi - Yes I do remember your suggestion when I had wheel assignment problems. I decided yesterday I need to do that, after a couple folks said my PC2 is not acting right. I may have deleted too many files when I tried to delete my Clubsport settings. So I will try that and report back. It seems it’s probably not an SC2 issue, so I will probably just do the integrity check, and/or PC2 reinstall and report back, without too much more discussion on the SC2 board. But I will report when I have it solved (hopefully). Thx!

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Thanks Emil, thanks for reminder, but I did save. It took me a while to figure out that when the ‘Save to Simucube’ button is ‘lit’ that you need to press the button and WAIT quite a while until it finishes and dims. Would be better if the button flashed much faster or even a popup ‘WAIT’ or ‘SAVING’ msg. to make sure people know to wait. It’s not that obvious.

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Thx! I’ll do an integrity check… hopefully tonight.

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Thanks emil- good suggestion. Yes, I used PC2 with my Clubsport 2.5 for a couple months before getting the SC2, and I didn’t change my in-game settings with the SC2. I will doublecheck, but I was checking ingame settings a few times during this process, and I"m sure volume isn’t zero.