One rewrite after another, misguided product direction with complete disregard of a large portion of long term loyal user base, endless internal tinkering that just brings new bugs without real benefit for end user.
And 2 years later we are still waiting for promised Recon v2.
I really love SC2, hardware part is flawless, but the way the software design and development are done is just appalling.
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Hopes are Hi on my end, im patient enough to wait for a version that suits my needs. Meanwhile I keep learning to master TrueDrive.
Hopes are Hi too relative to new InHouse Simucube wheel, my mind tells me that one wheel that fits all SC2 bases will create THE DEFAULT PROFILE that suits all of us.
If no, and only 2 analog paddles and 2 info leds are the new additions, then It Will be a no go for me
I can elaborate a bit. True Drive has its origins as a side project companion application to the Simucube 1 firmware. It was partially rewritten when Simucube 2 was released and Simucube 2 specific features were added. Some code tidyups have been done in the background, but early in 2020 we realized that it is just too specific for Simucube 2 wheelbase and it would be very difficult to support it in the long term. Adding support for new types of hardware would be a real pain. Same applies also to the firmware, applications specific and thus hard to understand without familiarizing quite a bit before changing anything. This was stumbled upon many times when we expanded our developer team.
Therefore we implemented two things:
- profile management in another place, not in the PC software and not in firmware. We can leverage the help of modern web technologies in this and are not limited to aging c++ style applications. This allows to clean up the code from True Drive and the firmware as well, and True Drive will only need some parsing function to send parameters to device.
- Firmware rewrite. This has been largely done now, and Iâm currently driving with Firmware 2.0 for the very first time as I write this. Now the firmware is much more modular to what is was before, and it is easy to add new modules and features, some of which are now in planning and in development.
- Filter development. Recon Filter 2 development advanced to some state, but we couldnât make it work well enough for all games as the update rates and such were different. It is still on the drawing board, though.
Simucube Wireless Wheel 2 support is also a part of the Firmware 2.0. Its firmware implementation is also much more simple on the new firmware than how it used to be.
The next step is the complete rewrite of the True Drive software, without having such hard-coded things that make it just a wheelbase tuning tool. This will allow True Drive to be the one and only application for all current and upcoming simulation hardware we are currently developing.
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FFB feel will remain very subjective, though. I doubt we could make any official profiles for a particular wheel.
I hope it wonât be a case of âthe operation was successful, but the patient diedâ, but imho a LOT of ground has been lost. A full year with no benefit to any end user yet & competition that just exploded.
I am sure you guys are having some heated discussions on why the patient is left to suffer, with no meds, for such a long operation.
Good luck on catching up, 1 year gone, hereâs hoping for some REAL end user improvements & filters a long long time before another year has passed.
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@kledsen - what improvements are needed?
I may be a new customer to the ecosystem but I received tremendous benefit from the first moment I plugged in the SC2 - it was smooth and vibration free, something that had bothered me on my prior Direct Drive since I got it.
I suspect the SC2 series hardware is just better.
Sure Iâd love to see some bells and whistles but I suspect as developers continue to improve DD support in sim racing titles, weâll need those bells and whistles less and less.
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Yeah Iâm wondering aswell. I have little to complain about sofar and GD have been quick to respond to the small problems I had. Iâm no long time user but communication seems to be very open. Danger of open communication like that is often that expectations rise sky-high but personally I like the approach. Of course opinions can differ but some replies in here are imho harsh and rather (passive) aggressive. Iâm more of a positive feedback type I guess 
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Ouch! So future Simucube product will be a button box only, not a complete wheelâŚ
My thoughs are that a servo&wheel combo must facilitate all profiles weirdness as It is now, having a proved wheel and calibrated servo for it, is a must for âlazyâ newcomers
It seems a bit weird to have no official profiles indeed but I also understand what Mika is saying. What use is an official profile made on a light 280mm wheel when Iâm using a heavy 320mm wheel? What use is an official profile if the one who made the profile likes light and quick while I prefer heavy inputs.
Might be better to have some official example profiles? Going from one end of the spectrum to the other end so users get a feel of which feelings suit their style. Again easier said then done but an âofficial this is the right oneâ setup is useless me thinks in a practical way, could be smart in a marketing âsatisfy the unknowing customerâ wayâŚbut thatâs just marketing and not truly useful for the customer.
Forgive me Mika but I donât understand, you say: âFFB feel will remain very subjective, thoughâ (and I agree with you) but then you develop a web software for sharing profiles, why?
Are you the only ones taking this road, Fanatec, Thrustmaster, Logitech havenât thought about it? Yet they have very complete hardware ecosystems.
One last question if I may: is the obligation to use the SC2 with an internet connection legal?
When I bought my SC2 it was not a requirement to have an internet connection
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I do prefer being positive, but this is not so much about being positive or negative, rathet I would not be doing anybody any favors by not stating my thoughts, as an end user, here.
Granite can def. listen or bin the input.
As end user I like the competition and 100% would like them to succeed, no matter personal opinions reg. anything.
Multiple tech-savvy people and software developers have expressed their concerns earlier and I am sure nobody wants anything but the best for the company. Just that we are hugely concerned about the choices made on the software side of things.
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I agree on the hardware, so far.
My concerns are on the software side of things, which this thread is about.
No matter the hardware, the software is a part of that equation, at least for a good while longer, as the Sims are not quite there yet, it seems like to me. So for now the software is a very important factor.
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How you update your firmware? Ainât there a way to do your own profiles in offline mode? Are you in online races? How do you get patches/updates for your favourite simgames? Do you really want to take this already monstrous âI want thatâ âwhy does the software uses so much CPUâ âuse full torque and dampen 100%â discussion to that level? Please, dude, donât drive them into the darkness that only can be filled with light by a bottle of wodka
Sorry but the question was for Mika
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I know but my answer for you
Hi, my Feedback to the new Software: first i was a bit irritated/confused how to âuseâ it, now, after
a couple of days itâs fine.
So, i checked out those other profiles, because curiosityâŚi still use my profile,but i started again to experiment with adjustments, try to learn more about filtering etcâŚ
This is were GD,community and product really shines!
how many percent CPU needs TD? as long as no bigger stutters or worse happens, FFB adjustments in pit,all good
1 more click to get to menu? Iâll get used to it,no?
I wouldnt say itâs an âmindblowingâ userfriendly piece of software, but it could be worseâŚand gets only better with time
why and how share setups, i mean FFB settings?
Imho, both are kinda signposts, in this or another wayâŚ
at least setups are easier to evaluate because sim give tons of data
Iâm curiuos to see whats coming next!
I drive nearly only ACC, use 1 profile for all cars and this i didnât changed since months
SC2 since '19, 1st DD
Mfg Shanti
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Doubt that my friend. My F1 wheel is so different from the rally wheel which is different from the GT. The future is not THAT WHEEL but software/firmware capable to perfectly synchronise game, drive and wheel. Fast, precise, neutral, maybe soon with AI ability to learn and improve according to the user. Hardware like wheels wonât be all-rounders but clean functional highly specialised tools. Lol, my look into future is the total opposite of yours! Interesting to see the outcome
How about we have the in game settings listed in text or a screenshot and optional youtube videos? Seems like most of them now are linking to a video instead of just writing it or screenshotting it. Dont really care to watch a video for a handful of slider settings that could just as easily be posted. For now I just avoid those setups unfortunately. my.02
I came from Fanatec ecosystem and DD2 to sc2pro and its so much better, to each his own. The sharing of profiles isnt available on fanalabs and Im sure their whole community would love to have it. Seems to me GD is paying the price for being trendsetters. Logitech doesnt offer a DD setup either so maybe GD should follow their lead in that dept too? And LFMAO at the legalities of it considering you can use the pre Paddock firmware offline as far as I know but LMK what ur lawyer says as I am very curious ;)âŚ
Thats what we have right now with TD.
Hopes are Hi!!! Ahahaha
Mika told me some time ago that no plans to make/not capable of doing SC2 software more âsmartâ, like Auto ULLM, or auto calibrations to measure wheel weight or induced inertias created by the wheel.
The competence knows its steering wheels, so they are capables of doing some firmware finetuning with every wheel. Knowledge is power, you know?
But, Granite Devices approach is way diferent, they are trying to force customers to an online connection to gather all tipe of data about ours. They tried at the beginings of SC2 with the Consent Data traffic because IMO their knowledge about games is very reduced.
I never forgot some words from GD team saying that Richard Burns Rally is very old, an âobscureâ game as they say, trying to play down the bumpstop problem.
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