Specifically on this question- watch the Boosted Media Invicta review because Will covers this topic (vs. SC2 Pro). He claims that the increased speed of the Invicta made it so that in certain situations with certain cars (I think this was ACC?) the car itself caught the slide thanks to natural centering forces that are similar to what a real car does. This probably depends heavily on the sim, the car, and the situation- but it was a notable difference for him.
Iâve only driven on-track at race speeds once myself (Nurburgring) so I canât really say how realistic this is. But it was a concrete assertion of how the Invicta is faster than the SC2, at least with current shipping firmware. And while I donât quite trust most YouTubers, I do trust Will. The guy seems honest (and has built his whole career around this reputation).
I also trust Will. But I donât know how good he is, or how much real-world track experience he has.
More generally, my point is, all the comments from reviewers seem to point to marginal improvements. I havenât heard anyone say âmy lap times dropped by 2sâ or âthis is now much closer to my real-world race carâ.
To put it another way, I havenât seen a single review that made me feel like it was time to sell my Sport and get a new wheelbase. The way I see it, there just hasnât been a huge step up in the wheelbase market these past 4 years.
Yeah I think itâs difficult to quantify the actual end-result. Just that the difference was noticeable to most of the reviewers. At the same time I wouldnât be surprised if this is entirely a software or firmware thing that can be eventually matched on the SC2. The QR is a different story (obviously).
Again:
Ecosystem is an euphemism for a customer lock-in system. Using the euphemism only proofs one hasnât understand how marketing is fooling people.
If you think that there is a single Granite customer that ever thought about getting a faster, stronger DD then you clearly donât understand the DNA of these products. If there is something we donât care about, donât spend no time at all, then itâs upgrading. Upgrading simply ainât possible. I would call it side grading, that some maybe think about to change to maybe Asetek.
Final thought: you should have realised that there wonât be a stronger (and therefore more expensive) Simucube 3 in the next years. But a model 3 with a competitive price targeting all the Chinese manufacturers and Fanatec, that could be a possibility.
As I donât have a single Simucube wheel Iâm in the position to get an Asetek DD if I want, and I can use all of my wheels. So please stop trolling.
Again, not trying to make anyone emotional here. Sincere apologies from my side. Iâm completely dis-invested⌠I own nothing at the moment. Still strongly considering a SC2 pro. Just asking questions and sharing my thought process.
Will also admitted that, in a blind test, he to 99 percent wouldnât be able to tell the difference in the 3 Simucube 2 models when they use the same settings, the same car and the same track.
By the way, when I bought my SC2, I was tempted to get a Sport instead of a Pro for the higher slew rate. There wasnât a big price difference. But my ârigâ at the time was a PlaySeat Challenge. So I bought the lightest and most compact DD wheelbase I could find. But now that I have an aluminum rig, I donât feel compelled to upgrade.
Thanks. It would be nice to have details, though. I see the Asetek Invicta more or less as a SC1 with a super-potent motor and a better wheel-to-base connection, but maybe Iâm wrong.
Lol, I went from a second hand challenge to a second hand Evolution (all with a G29). Then to Pro Simrig PSR1. Back in 2021 I had the choice of getting the Pro or the Sport. VPG sim friends told me to get the Sport. Based on what I drive I hardly ever use the full torque. And the main difference of the monster slew rate of the Pro and the Ultimate: they brake 3 fingers instead of 1 (joke).
I think the Invicta is the flagship of Asetek. From the data sheet itâs the equivalent to the Ultimate. What I like about Asetek that they made their QR system available to 8 or nine hand chosen steering wheel manufacturers, among them VPG, Gomez, Bavarian Sim Tec. See here:
I had not realized itâs your first buying decision. My advice is: âdonât overthink itâ. All the wheelbases youâre looking at are good and relatively close to each other. Look at the choice of wheels that youâll have. And then buy what looks good to youâand I mean that literally: the esthetic aspect is important. I wouldnât buy an Asetek wheelbase (or even a wheel) just because of the looks, but thatâs just me.
Yes, thatâs a smart move. Similar to GD licensing the SCWW interface.
I have to admit: although itâs a bit stupid I wouldnât either (if there is no Simucube, then yes).
I remember good the first time I lifted the Simucube. The relatively small thing⌠and so heavy!! âIs it made from Uranium?â was my thought.
You canât deny: Granite is a bunch of smart dudes and dudedessâs(no idea if the word even exists 
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Actually not my first. Iâm abandoning all of my Fanatec gear (DD1) and never looking back ⌠this next wheelbase (whatever it is) will actually be my 4th.
I see. Well, my advice still stands 
In 6+ years, Iâve only known 2 wheelbases: a T300 and my SC2 Sport.
But then I bought 2 VR headsets in 2023 ⌠Technology seems to move quicker in that space.
Sc1 was a different product because you had to diy. (although there were sellers ofc). The only thing in common was that none was expecting a sc2 and the same thing will happen when sc3 will launch 
Never thought that better wheel made me a better driver, itâs mostly for immersion sake and ego. 
I have the PSR1 from Raceanywhere, the best of the best 