I don’t think its even possible to brick the device, thats only an issue if the developers don’t know how to create proper firmware update packages (or whatever you call it)
I have done the downgrade multiple times without any issue
3 Likes
The product is under warranty from Simucube and not Granite, at least mine is.
The first contact would be the reseller you bought it from. In my case that would be Simucube, because I bought it from them.
Overall this is a very theoretical, if not hypothetical conversation, because it won’t crack from a firmware downgrade.
User Interface and underlying profiles storage are things that can change and evolve independently, claiming UI was changed because of that is at best misleading.
In any case, I’ve stopped fighting this battle long ago, 2021.9 still works and I do not see reason to change in the foreseeable future.
The only support questions I see on this board come from Paddock users, missing good old days when people were mostly just asking about profiles and could learn a thing or two from each other in the process.
You stopped the fight, but recommend the same TD version you use for whatever problem people are having.
Maybe here in this forum problems seem to come from them. It’s most likely not the only place GD gets feedback from. Maybe the most visible anyway.
I would be kind of weird to use so much time for a feature no one wanted, makes the product worse, hinders future development and puts more pressure on customer support.
According to this (and every other) thread, that is the case.
1 Like
Apologies to go against the consensus here, but I actually like Paddock and the profile sharing features.
The only issue I have with it is that there are just far too many profiles uploaded to Paddock by everyone. If I load up rFactor 2 and want download to a profile someone else has already worked on, I have to download and test maybe 10 different profiles, ALL completely different, before I find one that I like, if ever.
I wish Paddock had a way to give a star rating to the Profiles on there, and then allow users to give feedback to the creator and other users about the profile so that eventually each car/sim has a consensus built up of “This the most popular profile for this car - use this one” and then the other profiles.
I have uploaded my profiles to Paddock which I have spent hours and weeks developing and I have no idea why some are listed as “Gold - Consistent” with dozens of other users using them, and then other profiles I have uploaded have no users, when I think they’re very good.
There needs to be a better way to quantify which profiles are good, and which aren’t.
I see no reason for Granite to keep putting resources into an Offline mode, when half of us play Sims that are already connected to the Internet like iRacing and ACC, and being online or offline makes no difference to True Drive.
I wish they would spend all of their resources adding more features to True Drive, for example like SOP, and working on the FFB to make it as responsive as possible.
As nice as my Ultimate is, I still don’t think it is ‘that much’ better than my old TS-PC Racer was, and my old TS-PC Racer was a damn site easier to set up than my Simucube. I had like three settings in the Thrustmaster software, whereas now I spend far too much time on TD mucking around with profiles and trying to improve the feel, when all I want to do is race.
1 Like
We thought of this, but for example when one looks at online food recipe sites, there are usually just saturated with four or five star ratings, with no added value. Therefore Paddock includes a mechanism for rating profiles bad/good/awesome. The system also shows a dispersion - that is, whether everyone agrees on the averaged value, or if there is much differing opinions.
Possible development path, but we would need to moderate all comments etc., which would be quite a task.
Elaborating the development path for the web app - we would need tools for moderation etc., which would be a task to implement. Other way would be to migrate this forum into the Paddock app and merge the logins.
We thought of this, but for example when one looks at online food recipe sites, there are usually just saturated with four or five star ratings,
True, but Google tends to push searchers towards the BBC good food page, or the Jamie Oliver website for a recipe by showing those results at the top. These are sites you know you’re going to get a good recipe from.
If True Drive Paddock wants to be a place where we can download other people’s profiles instead of spending hours making our own, it NEEDS to push me towards the best profiles on Paddock first, the ones that Granite knows will absolutely work well with my sim.
There’s too many crap profiles on there, made by people who have no idea what they’re doing.
I LIKE the idea of Paddock, I think it is definitely the way forward for TD, but Granite needs to entirely remove the guess work out of their users making profiles, and take them to the ones they should be using.
In fact, I know you use iRacing. You must know how to get your wheel working as well as it can ever feel with iRacing.
How comes half the profiles on Paddock aren’t uploaded by you personally with the “Mika Approved” profile stamp on it!
I’d download that profile way before I download anyone elses.
@Mika
I wonder if we get an official statement if TD is an FFB tool and was developed as such. Or if it is a tool to deal with torque level and possible effects like oscillation.
Is it possible to get some general information/advice about what Simucube favours as settings in:
AC for open wheelers and GT cars
ACC
F1 titles
AMS2
Race factor 2
That would be enough as basic guidelines and all discussions were obsolete. Whoever goes in a different direction finally would know about, and still having the freedom to do so.
I’m not the only one that think you should know best.
For me, never answering the question means either avoiding it or simply not knowing.
1 Like
I’m not sure on what is the difference between these. True Drive is the tool to manage the device settings.
We do not have any recommended settings for any games as the FFB is so subjective. I use my “iracing for most cars” profile for almost all games.
Sorry Mika, my English:
Assetto Corsa has a bespoke physics engine made by Kunos while ACC was altered to match Unreal engine 4. Both deliver whatever is FFB related.
TD does not create FFB, or does it?
TD does not and can not add any FFB, increase the amount or the quality of FFB. It’s not an extension to a physics engine.
TD jobs is to deliver the arriving FFB as neutral, clean and fast as possible. Whatever filter one uses does affect the incoming FFB signal but not its quality (through adding FFB, extend FFB, make FFB clearer).
It’s to manage the device (the Simucube) settings.
This is my question
1 Like
True Drive does not create anything. Everything happens in the wheel base firmware.
For the wheel base, there are some effects that actually add their own things, rather than affect the signal that is input from the game.
The Friction, Damping and Inertia filters actually add these natural effects. They work even when there is no FFB signal from game. They either add constant friction to resist turning of the wheel, or something that reacts depending on how fast the wheel is being turned, or to simulate more mass on the motor shaft.
The rest do work with the FFB signal. In general, they either smoothen or predict the FFB signal.
Yes, all these setting are managed by True Drive.
3 Likes
Thanks a lot Mika!
It’s just important for me to know whether my basic approach/understanding is correct at all or not.