Assetto Corsa Competizione and Simucube 2

I gave up on ACC (I tried it over and over with every update)… it was bad on my DD2 and it is worse on my Simucube2 Pro… literally every other Sim does GT3 better -> iRacing, R3E, rFactor2, even AC where GT3 are not the strong suit.

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how do you set ingame ffb and td profile for acc?

Same here. Will be uninstalled tonight.
Totally agree.

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We all probably looking for different things when it comes to FFB, for me petsonally ACC FFB is true next gen, revolutionary step up from already great AC laid foundation.

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I’ve wanted ACC to work for me ever since switching from TSPC racer to SC2, but it has not been possible. FFB feels nothing like a real car in any way to me in ACC on SC2.
I have not tried the filters completely exhaustive, as the VR experience is also shit on top of the bad FFB, so can’t stay in it for long for that reason as well…
But we can prob. learn to like it just like drinking coffee or beer when you’re age 5: Just do it enough :slightly_smiling_face:
The ones of us unfortunate enough to not like these things right away, of course. I do envy you guys who like it as it is, simply bc of the more choice of sims it gives you :slightly_smiling_face:

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“FFB feels nothing like a real car in any way to me in ACC on SC2”

You’ve driven a GT3 car before?
Sorry, you asked for it… :wink:

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hehe, I know, not the first time, it’s the standard response to anybody saying any sim does not feel like a real car.

Short answer: No(not yet, bc of covid), so I can’t know for absolutely 100.00000%(yet).
Longer answer: I am very sure, having driven many different cars in general, and sat in various very high end sports cars in front passenger seats, that it does not feel so different from any normal sportier car when it comes to driving at low speeds up to maybe 80-100 mph with normal downforce.
If that is the case(which I am confident it is), then it REALLY does not feel anything like real. But again, maybe I just did not spend enough time adjusting the filters. I did however try many posted suggestions and they, as mentioned, have nothing to do with the feel of any real car that I have ever been close to.

In closing: I say with confidence that you really don’t need to have driven a specific car to know if the steering wheel feels completely unrealistic or not. As long as you’ve been driving some minimum amount like 20-30 other and different cars.

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I think the major difference to AC or R3E is the tyre model and how this is translated into FFB. Aris explained the very peaky and small operational window.
Obviously this is still a game. But I trust the opinions of Dave Perel and Nicki Thiim when they say that this is the closest you can momentarily get to GT3 experience in a game.

This might not be everybodies cup of tea of course. I too had a learning curve from AC and R3E, but never looked back after I appeciated the feel in ACC on a SC2Pro. Uninstalled AC and R3E even.

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I think that is prob. true from a how the “tyres react to the road” angle. But it’s the crazy, not just peaky, but very “states controlled” feel on top of the very decidedly un-smooth feel on turning, even at low speeds, that feels way wrong.

So I get it if an expert tells us the nature of the tyre/road is more correct than others, that might very well be right.

But to me the overall feeling of the steering wheel is far from a real car feeling, in general, and it kills my immersion for now. Until one day maybe I get used to the feel of it & that alone won’t un-immerse me.

I still keep those and even AMS2, just because of the content variety they provide, but to me racing in those after ACC feels like a significant downgrade.
It’s like switching from smooth HD uncompressed audio to shouty, digital artifacts riddled low bitrate MP3, with skips, clicks, and unexplained gaps.

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Are you on VR?
If so maybe you have some most important setting to make it ok?

Yes, and love it.
Link to setting and thread where we can continue on that instead of cluttering this topic.

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Simply put u want what any sim outputs and not over the top added “fake tuned” effects or whatever anyone wanna call it. Anyways, sorry for being off topic so will leave the floor to the tuners. Over and out.

what settings ingame and for td are you using for acc?

I’m sorry, it’s a little while back, so don’t remember clearly.
Will have to take a look, hopefully time allows tomorrow, so can post here then.
Thx

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Dave Perel and Nicki Thiim are racing drivers. When they say this is the closest of any sim to GT3 they are talking about the driving feel, not the physics equations or technical aspects.

I really don’t recognise the way you describe the FFB in ACC. As @Andrew_WOT says, ACC has very smooth and subtle FFB but with incredible detail. Other sims seem to overdo the chassis vibrations with fake rotational vibrations which is maybe what you miss. Once you get used to the lack of noise it really is great.

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This is the part that I don’t recognize at all.
I will need to try harder and again on the various settings.
On my wheel it feels VERY rough and like it’s jumping from state to state in a state machine.
I’m not saying that’s how it’s built at all, just describing how it feels here.
It’s weird how it can feel so different. Really need to figure out if it’s the subjective part or we really have a big diff in how it feels.

I am def. not alone in feeling it’s very wrong, so that’s kind of weird as well…

Well, will give it yet another go today and post again.

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what recon level do you use?
di damping, friction?
dynamic damping ingame at 100%? zero road feel?
please don’t tell me you don’t use any filter and because of that your ffb feels bad.

I’ve tried many filters earlier.

I’m looking for latest recommendations in this thread, I have 20 mins I can spend right now.

ok, so I used the settings file as posted by you, @SuperMonaco_GP and in game:

Gain: 45%
Road: Both 0% as well as 10% was tried.
Dynamic dampening: 100%
Frequency: 333hz

I can see why I actually could get used to it.
But what kills it completely for me until I force myself to that state is the non-connection to the road.

  1. In any family car you have a somewhat not so direct feeling of connection with the road.
    But most/all sportier cars I have driven have had a way more direct road feel than a family transporter.
    In ACC it is feeling like nothing but a spring.

  2. At low speed there is some resistance on counter steering, but as soon as I hit 100kmh, there is no resistance of the tyres on returning fast to center. No matter how much angle I have steered away from center, when I center as fast as I can, nothing. Just a spring. No tyre on the road.

  3. The resistance from the tyres should be immediate on turning the steering wheel. But instead it seems to ramp up very un-linear. Very very soft at first(absolutely no tyre-road interaction feel) then ramping up to some resistance.
    Again, no sporty car I have ever driven feels like that. It kind of feels like a REALLY BAD family transport instead, although with any sense of contact removed from it.


I do see there are other aspects that I remembered wrong. There are some details that feel great & very rubbery like. Also I have no doubt that the overall physics when it comes to how the car reacts and when/how the tyres slide could be more realistic than most other sims.

It is the steering wheel feeling and forces(the ffb), as a whole that is my issue.
When turning the steering wheel, I just feel a spring, not a rack or any tyre-road connection.

Sorry.