i have settled on the D1 spec quick release for my simucube 2, they are solid, and very versatile at a good price, they are also the same that moza and simagic use so can use their wheels (any that support 3rd party bases)
Hi all
I´d like to have wireless connection, including bidirectional Temetry, Simhub compatible (for rev lights e.g.) like I use now on my Cube Controls Formula F-Pro with Bluetooth and a possibility to use wheels with display. If this could be realized by an (optional) USB pass through or somehow else I leave to R&D dept choice;-)
For example I am interested to buy an Ascher Racing McLAREN ARTURA PRO, but the LED are static, cause of missing telemetry in SC mode or I have to buy the USB version (Cable sucks)
Same wheel as ultimate is only possible by using USB due to the display (again, cable sucks)
And, VERY important, I’d like to have a solution which could be upgraded to my existing SC2 pro DD.
Cheers, Tom
PS, I heard about rumors about a coming SC edition GSI Wheel with wireless connection and display, no idea if that´s true
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Cannot see how that could possibly work without power actually being supplied ala USB
Sounds like you want USB wheel with all supported goodies, like power and telemetry delivery, but working as wireless.
To my knowledge only Asetek has a solution for that.
Yes, correct.
And if Asetek has made this happen I think granite devices will be also able to do so. Of course it is a wishlist but I’ve been asked for a new QR, so why not?
Noone should be forced to buy Asetek if this feature is wanted…
Cheers Tom
Would be interesting to see how that works with their new proprietary Ethernet protocol.
Although I don’t share your dislike on cables, check out the solution by Dan Suzuki.
It is essentially a QR that accepts a USB cable on the base side then internally transfers it to the wheel.
This has the benefit of not having to plug and unplug cables each and every time you change a wheel.
Hopefully someone will come out with a production version soon.
What the heck the protocol has to do with it? Currently the only issue with SC’s wireless QR is the power delivery. You can’t have wireless wheels with screens as they would have to be battery powered. Asetek has a nice solution for it, do you know if they have trouble with the protocol they are using?
Also SC’s proprietary ethernet protocol seems to work just fine with their pedals, so I wouldn’t be worried. At least as much as you do whenever SC’s proprietary tech comes into the discussion (mostly by you though)
Language please.
Asetek is using standard USB pass-through, SC3 is switching to proprietary Ethernet based protocol, will it be compatible with USB wheels and allow the same USB to wireless conversion as Asetek, only time will tell, it could be limited to SC3 specific wheels only.
I thought the question was about wireless connection? The current wireless connection is already proprietary. Doesn’t seem to cause much trouble. If needed use BT or wired USB. I don’t see anything changing in that regard. Last time I checked you can’t connect USB wheel to SC2 either.
Maybe there is a valid concern, or some new concern with a future product and I just fail to understand it.
So Asetek “wireless” wheels are actually USB connected wheels, the connector is just implemented into the QR? And you would like to have those wheels to be compatible with SC ‘X’ wheelbases? Does any other manufacturer offer their tech for “free”, I mean the protocol, connector and possible other tech associated? Asetek I think said the QR will be freely available for others, is there many 3rd party wheels available?
The above exchange with Tom was about USB to wireless conversion, nothing else.
And yes, SC2 BT is proprietary, and yes, it’s not causing many problems (at least for me), except locking you to SC2 and limiting use of fancy stuff like dashboards and lights.
SC3 wheelbase will not have wireless receiver anymore so backward compatibility will be provided via Simucube Link, which could have been avoided altogether if it was using standard BT protocol.
Wondering what BT reception will be in this case though, as I did not see any antennas on it and it will be located farther from the wheel.
Yet somehow you pulled SC’s unannounced possible next generation QR into the conversation painting grim outlook on it’s ethernet based protocol. His only issue was power delivery to the wheel more or less and maybe some kind of USB passthrough with current wheels.
Pure BT wheels seem to work without major problems with the connectivity (range), why would it be different with the yet to be announced future SC wheels (or base/connectivity box).
Of course it would be optimal to just have a usb passthrough to the base and from there to the computer handled by a robust connector wheelside that would deliver power and data. Is Asetek doing that, or is it just power?
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Properties of a QR that I would like:
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The mechanical stuff: It should be strongly-connected, it should lock into place in a way that’s clear and unambiguous, and removing it should be easy. This all seems uncontroversial and well-understood.
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It should have a way to handle data and power through the connection, whether this be a special physical connection (like Fanatec) or standard USB (like Asetek), because the alternatives are all suboptimal in different ways. Dangling USB cords are awkward, and wireless requires battery power (plus is either proprietary or sometimes-unreliable).
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I hate hate hate proprietary connections that only work with one brand, so if the physical connection weren’t standard USB, I think it would be wonderful if Simucube would ship it as an open spec, free for anyone to implement. Yes, this means giving away your internally-developed IP, but being the leader with an open standard can be more valuable than being the only company using a proprietary one. But also, there are a lot of USB wheels out there, and Asetek has proven that it’s feasible to do a USB-passthrough QR, so it seems like just jumping in to an already-existing universe of USB-friendly stuff would be the way that provides the most immediate “compatible wheels” bang for the buck.
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I think this whole thread can be summed up with a simple requirement.
Future wheelbases should all support USB on the hardware and have USB and power transfer over the wheel side QR. It would be nice if any QR supporting USB and power transfer could be connected to the base shaft through a short USBC connection, to enable 3rd party QRs.
The corresponding element of the QR on the wheel side should have a USB-C port on the side of the QR so that a short USB cable can connect any USB wheel to the QR.
It doesn’t need to be any more complex than that.
Found this old thread on google after going through the recent reviews for the Alpha Evo lineup and other recent wheelbases. Reading through this debate was interesting, but in Q2 of 2025, I think we can safely say it’s clear that any new base that GD produces must have USB pass-through of some sort, with the flexibility to still adapt to 3rd party QRs. I don’t think this is really debatable anymore in this current landscape. The industry has moved on from coiled wires, and battery-powered bluetooth solutions. All data and power must come through the wheel base shaft.
The murky part here is what the rest of the new QR will look like. I never liked the SC2 QR and quickly replaced it with the NRG-style. I see a lot of other wheel vendors are similarly settling on the NRG format. It would be amazing if they could all settle on a standard for not only the QR, but the USB connectivity. NOT standardizing on this only hurts the consumer. It has no practical benefit to keep the connection standards proprietary.
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This 1000%, lots of buzz atm around the simagic qr and to me it seems that this system or NRG style real life qr systems add complexity in order to have freedom or wheel choice or heavy qr adapters which dampen the motor reflexes.
Personally I prefer SC stick to what do best and that is providing a motor with best force feedback possible with its solid QR system which is minimalist at the same time. Improve the motor & feedback for the SC3 and I look forward to buying the next gen. I have no problem connecting my wheel through secure traditional usb as currently used and this allows me to use wheel of choice without added complexity, potential wear and added failure points.
Once you move to wireless connection there is no way back. Own wired and wireless wheels and don’t remember last time I used wired, that cable IS the biggest “failure point”, I had my share of scares of cable swinging around after wheel going wild after crash, the dangling between your legs thing looking to catch on something is not confidence inspiring either.
Proprietary technology sucks though, wish there was an open standard or at least on the wheel hub USB connector so you can use short jumper USB cable to connect your wheel.
But looks like another proprietary thing with Simcucube Link Hub is what we gonna get with the next SC generation. Somebody never learn. 
As for physical QR, much prefer Buchfink Q1R, simple, light, compact, effective, and much easier to use than what SC supplied with.
100% agree. One of these manufacturers needs to be a true market leader and open up their electrical QR-standard (hoping it’s mechanically NRG-style, as I mentioned previously). The industry needs to get past this proprietary connector nonsense.
Despite what anyone might think of Tesla as a company, this is essentially what happened in the US electrical charging grid. There were a few standards here for a while, and the cost and headaches of dealing with that mix hurt everyone. After Tesla opened up their charging standard (NACS), most competitors have gotten on-board and adopted it. Everyone wins.
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