It comes with the correct cables, but Mige only puts connectors on the Motor side of the cables.
You must put the connectors on the other end.
Hi,
Iām thinking on upgrading to BISS-C encoder. Currently, Iām having a 40k cpr encoder. Basically, Iām satisfied with the current encoder, Iām only having one thing, which bothers me. In Assetto Corsa, the road noise in some cars is weird. It feels like a electric buzz. Iām curious, if it a limitation of the 40k encoder, or AC.
Easy to reproduce this.
- Car: Porsche Boxster S
- Track: Brands Hatch GP
- FFB gain in game is 43, and 100% in Simucube config tool
- Small Mige
- Reconstruction filter is 1
- Increase the road noise gain to like 7 or 8
Is that feels similar on BISS-C, or better? If no change on this field, I would rather skip the update now, and save this money for a future motion sim.
The buzz effect you describe affects SinCos, too. Must be quality of AC and DD wheel, not the encoder.
Thanks! You saved me some money!
On the topic of road effects feeling like electrical buzzingāI did find that using Reconstruction Filter of 3 or 4 helped make it feel more natural even up to about 15 percent on road effects. Not perfect . . . but usable.
Alan
Although that desnāt mean that upgrading from 40 to BISS-C or even sincos isnāt worth it.
Yes, thatās what Iām doing right now. Iām using reconstruction filter 3 mostly. But besides of the buzz, everything else seems better on 1.
Iām sure it does worth it, but right now, I have thousands of possibilities to develop my ārigā. That buzz bothered me mostly. So I can re-prioritize things now.
Turn off this canned effect! Problem solved
Thatās not a canned effect. It is the gain of the road noise. Anyway, I amplified it only to show you the problem easily. Iām keeping it 0, but some cars are doing it without the amplification as well, like the Tatuus, if I remember right.
Well, by design and the limitation of the simulation it has to be actually canned.
Why? Because simply the road noise in real life is due to the roughness of the road. Meaning all the small stones in the tarmac that generate those vibrations on the tyres, then transmitted to the chassis.
The simulation canāt handle that with a 500hz engine: a tick at 500hz is 5 cm for a 100kph speed.
Lord Kunos:
That is not entirelyā¦ accurate:The āroad effectā is totally coming from the physic engine, itās amplifying the effect of load changes on the FF, so if the load doesnāt change (ie, the road is flat) you get nothingā¦ itās not a procedural noise added over the surface.
Slip effect is also coming from what the tyres are doing so, again, itās strictly related to what it is happening.
The only effect that is 100% ācannedā is the curb effectā¦ as it is also happening on curbs that are 100% smooth.
Actually, probably thatās what the buzz is: a 333Hz (almost)square-wave signal, as Iām on āunlimitedā bandwidth, and lowest reconstruction filter. Or better said: spikes. And to make it ārubberyā, I really need some filtering.
I just received a Mige (15015) which has a DB15 soldered to the encoder cable. TBC whether the pins match SImucube specification.
Cheers Ben
Hi Ben,
Yes it is nice that they are sending the cables with the DB15 soldered on now.
That is one of the things that people did incorrect quite frequently.
To date I have not received any that were soldered incorrectly.
Talk later,
Joe
Asking this question for a friend who just upgraded his 40K to Biss-C 22-bit encoder (from Tomo)
He is saying that the entire feel is much lighter at the same motor power settings, and he thinks heās lost a lot of fidelity.
Could this just be that the 40K encoder was very ārawā and too ājoltyā
He says everything feels almost too smooth.
Appreciate any input.
Yes he lost the twitch of errors. He can lower the Recon Setting on his system to gain back some of the noise, You can also usually reduce the main filtering as the BiSS higher resolution allows those filters to be applied more accurately therefor making them more effective.
Thanks Brion
What do you mean by reducing the āmain filtersā?
Are you referring to the ādamping, friction, inertiaā in the Simucube Config tool?
Heās currently using 1.00, 1.00 and 3.00 respectively.
Thanks
The main drive filters are the Damping, Friction, and Inertia filters in your SimuCUBE Profilesā¦
Which size servo does he have and what Reconstruction is he running?
small mige, currently running 2 filter reconstruction
1.00 damping
1.00 friction
3.33 inertia
hmmm, anyway he can try 1 on the recon, and I would probably start by reducing the filtering to half of what he currently hasā¦ Basically it is going to be a bit of a new process to find a āfeelā as dynamically things have changed with the new encoder.