Shoulder Injury - SC2 Sport

Sorry, replied to the wrong person:

Honesty, you should get a good, very sturdy rig. Since my Pimax 5K super is connecting always! (and within 5 seconds) I much more drive with VR. Together with 4 rumble motors (left/right on the mounting plate, 1 throttle and 1 brake) and a bass shaker for the seat it’s the absolute immersion.
You have to make too many compromises, Fe the pedals position is too low (but there is no other possibility at the moment), the seat doesn’t have the right shape/form/dimensions.
I mentioned this earlier, but again: your elbows seem to touch the armrests, you maybe unconsciously squeeze your arms, your upper body together. This may leads to a very uncomfortable position.

When I look at your settings you posted above I wonder a bit that you still have so harsh forces: recon 4, damping 20, friction 10, inertia 15, static force reduction 20, slew rate limited to around 40% of the maximum possible… and you still get hurt. This really surprises me. I also wonder if you use a VR headset, because placing a monitor must be difficult.
I really hope you can get a rig soon. This will be a huge improvement in every way. On top, I wish you a speedy recovery!!

The settings were put in after my injury. The forces are definitely not harsh now. As I say, I plan to drive with this softer feel for a while to see if the injury stays away, then I can gradually move them back in the direction they were before to find the sweet spot. It might be that it was never the forces, but rather the position. And on position, the plan is to get a Prime or Prime Lite in a few months. I use VR exclusively. Oh, the arm rests are height adjustable so last night I dropped them low when driving, so they are out of the way.

Twinge in my shoulder after a few laps. I guess it isn’t quite healed up yet.

Interesting: without the side support the feet would be pushed off the pedals because of Gforces. And I wonder if it can’t get hot, so close to the brakes?
Question: when the legs are fully stretched, do you have to do all the braking with the ankles??

Yes, calves are doing most of the work, also in my case it is almost the same like that photo :wink: And there will be relatively good insulation due to carbon-Fiber monocoque. Also, seat /thigh-support will keep legs in place….

How tall are you? :slightly_smiling_face:

Hey @Atanas, 1.88m or 6ft3 - so actually I am quite skinny guy :wink:

Stop racing and go see a doctor before it got worse.
Shoulder injuries take forever to rehab and never actually fully heal.
Sounds like you’ve already done some damage to rotator cuff.

It was the faintest of twinges. Like I felt I was working it. Stopped immediately. Tried again a few hours later and had about 90 mins without any discomfort. Stopped at that. Will build it back up slowly.

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The One very important thing that was sort of gone over in that SimRacing ergonomics was the point that the centerline axis of the Steering wheel should be approx aimed at your center - upper shoulder, at minimum just above your arm pit and generally should be NO higher than your center neck (though when you get here it starts to get hard to see over some wheels. The other thing that is NOT EVER Explained and why the wheels have angles in road car but less so on some race cars is that the steering shaft generally is at about 10 - 12 inches above the base of your pedals. This naturally places the wheel at a comfortable angle to your seating position so if you visualize a shaft running perpendicular through the center of your wheel through your wheelbase and to your feet you can get an idea if your angle is to high or low…

This is actually a HUGE issue for desk mounts as they just don’t allow you to get the right angle from the wheel unless you are willing to cut a hole in your desk (usually)… and if you have a normal desk seating position your legs are not in the most comfortable position relative the wheel since you cannot get your body to be generally inline with the angle of the wheel.

If you do this visualization on the OP the wheel height and angle is actually not too bad but the upright seating position puts a different leverage on the wheel (blue-line). In order to make the seating position be more comfortable the wheel would need to be angled more like the green-line though again because of the seating position if you were to mount the wheel at this angle you would have to pay attention to how your hands come around the wheel into your lap as they could bind… The General suggestion of putting the steering wheel Flat to you or perpendicular to the ground is actually NOT very ergonomic as with the upright seating position you actually cause undue stress on your wrists through the movement.

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Thanks Brion. Still having a play around with position.

talking about seating position in the rig:
what kind of seat are “healthy”, i mean bucket seats without costumized cushion for the driver ( irl they swap them with the driver) dont make much sense or?

Everything that is following basic ergonomic, is adjustable, meets your size and is sturdy will do the job.
You have to find your seating position, and this is a combination of correctly setting steering wheel height and distance with correct distance and height of the pedal plate and pedals in your rig.

OP has a problem of mounted the DD to a desk, not having a good seat and a bad pedal position